Prot Tanks Struggling To Hold Threat

Prot PvP Update - Vigilance Spec

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Tanks Losing Threat

Today I'd like to help out all those prot warriors out there who are struggling with holding aoe threat in 5 mans. Let me begin by saying I love the way warriors tank now, it is very similiar to the vanilla days.

Here are the issues with 5 mans that make it harder to tank:

  • T-Clap does little damage, little threat.
  • Rend does little damage, decent threat.
  • Shockwave does little damage, decent threat.
  • Vengeance is never able to stack properly in a 5 man.
Ok so looking at that list do you think it's viable to charge in, rend and then thunderclap while dps are going balls to the wall like they were all expansion? Absolutley not.

Your rotation should look more like this:

  • Charge
  • Sidestep and shockwave
  • Thunderclap
  • Spam cleave and devastate, starting with primary target
  • Shield slam if you get it for free on the primary target right away.
Once you get into the initial devastate and cleave spam you then have to react to how your dps is attacking. Watch targets who suddenly switch from red to yellow threat and use abilities like shield block + slam, a heroic strike instead of cleave, revenge, mocking blow or your basic taunt to keep mobs on you. Since targets die so quickly in 5 mans a simple taunt followed by a devastate and heroic strike will keep a target on you for the few seconds it will remain alive.  Conc blow is a nice way to stun something you don't wish to hold threat on for the next three seconds (cut in half due to your shockwave). I like to use conc blow if I don't want to bother keeping threat on a target that is close to death and just went to yellow.

So as you can see, the problem with tanks right now is that they are too slowly setting up their threat while dps are sending lava burst combos over the tank's head. Understand how threat works, how you can manage it and also how to avoid disaster. Being aware of where your teammates are will allow you to decide instantly if intervene is necessary to avoid a death.

When I tank current 5 mans I wear all dps gear... with resilience which is doubly bad for pve, but since healers are often decently geared and I know how to prevent damage when it's going to spike on trash or bosses, I tend to have very few deaths. Wearing dps gear makes the pulls quicker and you'll be amazed at your dps with a full stack of vengeance.

NOTE: Demoralizing shout reduces physical damage by 10% and should be used whenever you have threat on all targets once per pull if you have any chance of dying.

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11 comments: on "Prot Tanks Struggling To Hold Threat"

  1. Why are there tanking tips on a tips-on-making-gold blog?

  2. Markco if you could find a link for Prot Pallys that would be appreciated.
    I think its across the board for all tanks having trouble keeping agro at 4.0.1

  3. There's no more mocking blow in the game if i'm not making a mistake.


    The above is hands down the best resource you will ever find for Prot pallies. Its a forum full of number experts, many of whom play prot pallies. As for 4.0 and threat:

    This is a link to a FAQ for Prot pallies post 4.0. He breaks down all the new stuff, including our rotations and how to keep threat.

  5. @Anon 1

    Because a blog is made to write about what you like to write about.

  6. Hi Markco,

    You´re doing a very good work on this site over the time. Thank you for trying to improve your site over and over.
    I´d like to suggest some 'mobile' version love... I know blogger ins´t the easiest blog provider for mobile view... but It would be great to be able to use mobile friendly navigation.

    Best regards,

  7. Couldn't agree more. Mobile friendly plox!!!
    But markco great work here in a prot warrior tank kingslayer. And also at 160k gold so to say u love this site would be an understatement !!

  8. awesome! i loved the vanilla and early tbc warrior tanking where you had to stay on top of things, not that mamby pamby aoe horsepucky of late wotlk.

  9. ps @anon1 - thar be tankin' tips because sooner or later, the ah gets so damn easy and boring that you have to leave the safety of the trade districts and actually play the game.

  10. Tanking tip number 1:

    Get threat plates.

    That's it.

  11. Tbh i think rend + thunderclap is quite good to use. Since if u put rend on your target and TC on it. The rend spreads to of the targets close.

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